Comments on: Public enemy number … http://shanebertou.wordpress.com/2008/05/29/public-enemy-number/ Sat, 13 Mar 2010 20:31:33 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Justin Mayfield http://shanebertou.wordpress.com/2008/05/29/public-enemy-number/#comment-9112 Justin Mayfield Fri, 30 May 2008 01:21:20 +0000 http://shanebertou.wordpress.com/?p=1260#comment-9112 Reading the excerpts I did, it doesn't sound like he really says anything all that shocking except that decisions weren't made as objectively as they should be and the administration had a habit of deceiving themselves and therefore the American people. He makes it sound like they were humans dealing with one crisis after another and choosing to be careful with what they talked about/not assess facts with their proper weight instead of just being totally candid and forthright. He also puts a lot of blame on the advisors for not doing a good job objectively advising Bush. Reading the excerpts I did, it doesn’t sound like he really says anything all that shocking except that decisions weren’t made as objectively as they should be and the administration had a habit of deceiving themselves and therefore the American people. He makes it sound like they were humans dealing with one crisis after another and choosing to be careful with what they talked about/not assess facts with their proper weight instead of just being totally candid and forthright. He also puts a lot of blame on the advisors for not doing a good job objectively advising Bush.

]]> By: timothy allen brown http://shanebertou.wordpress.com/2008/05/29/public-enemy-number/#comment-9111 timothy allen brown Thu, 29 May 2008 22:17:35 +0000 http://shanebertou.wordpress.com/?p=1260#comment-9111 in a sense i agree with jim, but more about how people can be so partisan with how they view an administration. for example, i have "liberal" friends who think bill clinton was some kind of superhero. what?!?! and friends who idolize reagan and vilify clinton. i'm sorry, but i see way more in common between the two then different. if this war had gone on as it almost did under clinton (1998), you'd hear all this anti-war talk from many conservatives. they'd have found all types of reasons to attack him and his administration. and many of the people attacking bush right now would be silent. it's sickening. and very hypocritical, but only people on the outside seem to see that, b/c it never ends. partisan politics is just plain ridiculous, and kind of ironic considering how little changes (often times, i admit that a new administration couldn't be worse! well, hopefully not) between republican president to democratic president, and the same with congress & the senate (2006 the dems win! yet, the war continues...hmmmm). i am literally a broken record with this, but the two party duopoly sucks. 3rd parties & independents can't get anywhere b/c they can't raise money b/c the american people settle for tweedle dee & tweedle dum, the constant "lesser of two evils". and so, the song & dance goes on and we the people lose. in a sense i agree with jim, but more about how people can be so partisan with how they view an administration. for example, i have “liberal” friends who think bill clinton was some kind of superhero. what?!?! and friends who idolize reagan and vilify clinton. i’m sorry, but i see way more in common between the two then different. if this war had gone on as it almost did under clinton (1998), you’d hear all this anti-war talk from many conservatives. they’d have found all types of reasons to attack him and his administration. and many of the people attacking bush right now would be silent. it’s sickening. and very hypocritical, but only people on the outside seem to see that, b/c it never ends. partisan politics is just plain ridiculous, and kind of ironic considering how little changes (often times, i admit that a new administration couldn’t be worse! well, hopefully not) between republican president to democratic president, and the same with congress & the senate (2006 the dems win! yet, the war continues…hmmmm). i am literally a broken record with this, but the two party duopoly sucks. 3rd parties & independents can’t get anywhere b/c they can’t raise money b/c the american people settle for tweedle dee & tweedle dum, the constant “lesser of two evils”. and so, the song & dance goes on and we the people lose.

]]> By: Tamara http://shanebertou.wordpress.com/2008/05/29/public-enemy-number/#comment-9109 Tamara Thu, 29 May 2008 21:37:06 +0000 http://shanebertou.wordpress.com/?p=1260#comment-9109 Why not both? It's not like he came forward with details before he got a book deal. "Loyalty to the truth" is a personal spin which gets him through the firestorm of criticism from former colleagues and friends. That doesn't mean that his details and thoughts aren't valid though, or that they are the whole picture. Another piece of reality. Why not both?

It’s not like he came forward with details before he got a book deal. “Loyalty to the truth” is a personal spin which gets him through the firestorm of criticism from former colleagues and friends.

That doesn’t mean that his details and thoughts aren’t valid though, or that they are the whole picture.

Another piece of reality.

]]> By: Jim E. http://shanebertou.wordpress.com/2008/05/29/public-enemy-number/#comment-9107 Jim E. Thu, 29 May 2008 20:48:52 +0000 http://shanebertou.wordpress.com/?p=1260#comment-9107 there is so much to talk about here. for instance, can you/should you/would you be completely forthright and honest at every turn with every detail while running a country? while running a campaign? while in a war? wouldn't you, too, have "propaganda" to promote something such as a war? i find it interesting that so many people are willing to point the finger at the Bush administration as if to say "I would never stretch the truth. I would never lie. I would always be truthful and honest and let all the details be known at all times, even if it hurt me or the government or the civilians." All that to say that it's easy to point the finger but difficult to lead. there is so much to talk about here.
for instance, can you/should you/would you be completely forthright and honest at every turn with every detail while running a country? while running a campaign? while in a war?
wouldn’t you, too, have “propaganda” to promote something such as a war?
i find it interesting that so many people are willing to point the finger at the Bush administration as if to say “I would never stretch the truth. I would never lie. I would always be truthful and honest and let all the details be known at all times, even if it hurt me or the government or the civilians.”
All that to say that it’s easy to point the finger but difficult to lead.

]]> By: timothy allen brown http://shanebertou.wordpress.com/2008/05/29/public-enemy-number/#comment-9104 timothy allen brown Thu, 29 May 2008 20:11:30 +0000 http://shanebertou.wordpress.com/?p=1260#comment-9104 he is to republicans what matt walsh is to patriots fans...except this guy actually has stuff! as far as being a "turn-coat", i'd say no, he's probably someone who has a splinters worth of a conscience (a rarity in washington), and therefore felt completely and utterly obligated to talk. anyone with a shred of dignity would. though, if you have more than a shred you'd never have been on the inside with that brood of vipers in the first place. he is to republicans what matt walsh is to patriots fans…except this guy actually has stuff!

as far as being a “turn-coat”, i’d say no, he’s probably someone who has a splinters worth of a conscience (a rarity in washington), and therefore felt completely and utterly obligated to talk. anyone with a shred of dignity would. though, if you have more than a shred you’d never have been on the inside with that brood of vipers in the first place.

]]> By: Pdog http://shanebertou.wordpress.com/2008/05/29/public-enemy-number/#comment-9102 Pdog Thu, 29 May 2008 19:15:03 +0000 http://shanebertou.wordpress.com/?p=1260#comment-9102 I would assume he knows a lot of stuff they wouldnt want him to talk about. I am also sure he will talk about said things as long as he can make a buck off it and will shut like a clam in front of a congressional hearing. As I am sure I dont have to remind you either anyone can write a book and misplace details to embellish the story to sell million of copies to Obama loving Hilary haters, but that doesnt mean its the whole story either. .... The whole story is probably a lot worse :) I would assume he knows a lot of stuff they wouldnt want him to talk about. I am also sure he will talk about said things as long as he can make a buck off it and will shut like a clam in front of a congressional hearing.
As I am sure I dont have to remind you either anyone can write a book and misplace details to embellish the story to sell million of copies to Obama loving Hilary haters, but that doesnt mean its the whole story either.

…. The whole story is probably a lot worse :)

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