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	<title>Comments on: Derek Webb &#8211; What Matters More?</title>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://shanebertou.wordpress.com/2009/07/03/derek-webb-what-matters-more/#comment-13029</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 15:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The call for homosexuals is the same as every follower of Christ. &quot;Deny self, take up my cross and follow me.&quot;  If you feel the call to follow Jesus, you will want their to be more of Christ and less of you.  If you truly love Jesus, you will want to obey his commands.  For homosexuals and others living in unrepentant sin, It is a lack of faith not to trust Christ and believe that He can change your heart (core you) or that his plan does not lead to a better life for you.  The cool thing is that each one of us can pray for Jesus to change us.  Jesus says his yolk is light- It takes faith to believe that.  Just like the sins I struggle with, homosexuals are called to repent, lay down their sin nature and follow Christ.  We must be compassionate, but if we truly believe, we must love eachother AND hold eachother accountable to God&#039;s plans at the same time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The call for homosexuals is the same as every follower of Christ. &#8220;Deny self, take up my cross and follow me.&#8221;  If you feel the call to follow Jesus, you will want their to be more of Christ and less of you.  If you truly love Jesus, you will want to obey his commands.  For homosexuals and others living in unrepentant sin, It is a lack of faith not to trust Christ and believe that He can change your heart (core you) or that his plan does not lead to a better life for you.  The cool thing is that each one of us can pray for Jesus to change us.  Jesus says his yolk is light- It takes faith to believe that.  Just like the sins I struggle with, homosexuals are called to repent, lay down their sin nature and follow Christ.  We must be compassionate, but if we truly believe, we must love eachother AND hold eachother accountable to God&#8217;s plans at the same time.</p>
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		<title>By: MR</title>
		<link>http://shanebertou.wordpress.com/2009/07/03/derek-webb-what-matters-more/#comment-12989</link>
		<dc:creator>MR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 21:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am late to this discussion, but I need to say a few things. 

I am a never-married Christian man who is 50 years old and I have fought homosexual temptations since I was 12. With God&#039;s help I have remained celibate instead of actively pursuing gay sex.

I have been in many churches and I have never experienced blatant hatred or violence. I have, unlike divorced people, experienced social pressure to remain silent about my temptation even though I needed to talk. There were even a few people who appeared to shun me, but it was always done in a subtle way that allowed for &quot;plausible deniability&quot;.  I believe that kind of experience is what Derek Webb referred to as hatred. Each incident seems minor, but being subtly shunned and silenced repeatedly can add up to serious hurt after a while.

I believe Derek&#039;s point is this: we should love those who are tempted to homosexual sin, the same as we love those who are tempted to adultery. We should reach out to gays like we reach out to the divorced. Lovingly call the sinner to repentance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am late to this discussion, but I need to say a few things. </p>
<p>I am a never-married Christian man who is 50 years old and I have fought homosexual temptations since I was 12. With God&#8217;s help I have remained celibate instead of actively pursuing gay sex.</p>
<p>I have been in many churches and I have never experienced blatant hatred or violence. I have, unlike divorced people, experienced social pressure to remain silent about my temptation even though I needed to talk. There were even a few people who appeared to shun me, but it was always done in a subtle way that allowed for &#8220;plausible deniability&#8221;.  I believe that kind of experience is what Derek Webb referred to as hatred. Each incident seems minor, but being subtly shunned and silenced repeatedly can add up to serious hurt after a while.</p>
<p>I believe Derek&#8217;s point is this: we should love those who are tempted to homosexual sin, the same as we love those who are tempted to adultery. We should reach out to gays like we reach out to the divorced. Lovingly call the sinner to repentance.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Waluk</title>
		<link>http://shanebertou.wordpress.com/2009/07/03/derek-webb-what-matters-more/#comment-12940</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Waluk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 21:14:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim, 

That&#039;s my favorite comment so far.  I like Derek&#039;s other stuff better, but I think that this is the natural progression of an artist.  They start running out of clever ideas and start exploring with their sound.  Look at the Beatles towards then.  Blame it on the drugs, but the truth is they simple wanted to create something new and original.  I hope Derek will eventually come full circle and release another House Show type album.  But let&#039;s be honest, we&#039;d all probably get bored of him if he never changed it up like this.

You are right, though.  A mainstream artist might record (or at least write) 30 songs and then release 10 on an album, letting cooler minds pick and choose what works best.  I&#039;m thinking that Derek probably puts out nearly everything he makes.  As a hardcore fan, I like it this way, but I realize that this probably hurts Derek&#039;s appeal to casual fans who&#039;d be better served with a more filterd exposure of Derek.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim, </p>
<p>That&#8217;s my favorite comment so far.  I like Derek&#8217;s other stuff better, but I think that this is the natural progression of an artist.  They start running out of clever ideas and start exploring with their sound.  Look at the Beatles towards then.  Blame it on the drugs, but the truth is they simple wanted to create something new and original.  I hope Derek will eventually come full circle and release another House Show type album.  But let&#8217;s be honest, we&#8217;d all probably get bored of him if he never changed it up like this.</p>
<p>You are right, though.  A mainstream artist might record (or at least write) 30 songs and then release 10 on an album, letting cooler minds pick and choose what works best.  I&#8217;m thinking that Derek probably puts out nearly everything he makes.  As a hardcore fan, I like it this way, but I realize that this probably hurts Derek&#8217;s appeal to casual fans who&#8217;d be better served with a more filterd exposure of Derek.</p>
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		<title>By: Shane Bertou</title>
		<link>http://shanebertou.wordpress.com/2009/07/03/derek-webb-what-matters-more/#comment-12939</link>
		<dc:creator>Shane Bertou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 20:04:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;d hate the rest of the album then. There are a WHOLE LOTTA beeps and blips. At times I think it&#039;s brilliant. Others it bores me to tears.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;d hate the rest of the album then. There are a WHOLE LOTTA beeps and blips. At times I think it&#8217;s brilliant. Others it bores me to tears.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim E</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 20:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>all the homosexuality talk aside...let&#039;s talk about this song.

the lyrics are ridiculously akin to something an angry freshman in high school would write.

the music sounds like a nintendo game and moby had a lovechild.

maybe his label didn&#039;t want to put this out because, well, it&#039;s terrible.

and i will now retreat back to my cave of silence.  i will post again in two weeks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>all the homosexuality talk aside&#8230;let&#8217;s talk about this song.</p>
<p>the lyrics are ridiculously akin to something an angry freshman in high school would write.</p>
<p>the music sounds like a nintendo game and moby had a lovechild.</p>
<p>maybe his label didn&#8217;t want to put this out because, well, it&#8217;s terrible.</p>
<p>and i will now retreat back to my cave of silence.  i will post again in two weeks.</p>
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		<title>By: Alise</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 17:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I look at the issue about homosexuality, I do question the whole &quot;is it a sin&quot; thing.  It would seem that the Scriptures speak quite plainly about women as pastors, and yet many denominations have no problem with that.  It would seem that the Scriptures speak quite plainly about wives submitting to husbands only, but egalitarians would dispute that.  The Bible never condemns multiple wives, never condemns slavery, yet we believe these things are morally wrong.  Why?

And when we start looking at nearly all other issues that are listed in those chapters (as Matt suggested), we find destructive, hurtful behaviors, or those with people who are unable to consent. Comparing a loving relationship between two consenting same-sex adults to a &quot;relationship&quot; between an adult and a child or a human and a dog is unfair because they simply aren&#039;t comparable. 

I&#039;m not saying whether it is or isn&#039;t a sin, but rather saying that the whole idea that it&#039;s &quot;plain&quot; is perhaps not so much the case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I look at the issue about homosexuality, I do question the whole &#8220;is it a sin&#8221; thing.  It would seem that the Scriptures speak quite plainly about women as pastors, and yet many denominations have no problem with that.  It would seem that the Scriptures speak quite plainly about wives submitting to husbands only, but egalitarians would dispute that.  The Bible never condemns multiple wives, never condemns slavery, yet we believe these things are morally wrong.  Why?</p>
<p>And when we start looking at nearly all other issues that are listed in those chapters (as Matt suggested), we find destructive, hurtful behaviors, or those with people who are unable to consent. Comparing a loving relationship between two consenting same-sex adults to a &#8220;relationship&#8221; between an adult and a child or a human and a dog is unfair because they simply aren&#8217;t comparable. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying whether it is or isn&#8217;t a sin, but rather saying that the whole idea that it&#8217;s &#8220;plain&#8221; is perhaps not so much the case.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 01:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree.  Tolerance isn&#039;t really a word that is appropriate.  I&#039;m a Christian, but I know there is a world outside the Bible.  I&#039;m also married.  Personally, I hope that everyone on earth achieves equality someday.  It&#039;s one of the those impossible dreams, but I hold it dearest of all.  I&#039;ve followed Webb since he left Caedmon&#039;s because a friend of mine knew him or something like that and got free CD&#039;s all the time.  Since &quot;Wedding Dress&quot; my wife and I love the guy and I hope that this song at least gets people thinking about how they really feel about what is the most important thing...words, sexuality, or the real evils of the word (in this case overlooking what doesn&#039;t directly impact our lives).  I appreciate all your comments!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree.  Tolerance isn&#8217;t really a word that is appropriate.  I&#8217;m a Christian, but I know there is a world outside the Bible.  I&#8217;m also married.  Personally, I hope that everyone on earth achieves equality someday.  It&#8217;s one of the those impossible dreams, but I hold it dearest of all.  I&#8217;ve followed Webb since he left Caedmon&#8217;s because a friend of mine knew him or something like that and got free CD&#8217;s all the time.  Since &#8220;Wedding Dress&#8221; my wife and I love the guy and I hope that this song at least gets people thinking about how they really feel about what is the most important thing&#8230;words, sexuality, or the real evils of the word (in this case overlooking what doesn&#8217;t directly impact our lives).  I appreciate all your comments!!</p>
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		<title>By: Paul N</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul N</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 21:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as genetic links, I dont believe that at all but I do believe in family curses. It only takes one person to break the cycle. I know families that everyone is violent, this is because it is what they see and I believe there is a curse. You can also see that Goldly familes usually have godly offspring,. Youth do wonder at times but always fing their way back to the truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as genetic links, I dont believe that at all but I do believe in family curses. It only takes one person to break the cycle. I know families that everyone is violent, this is because it is what they see and I believe there is a curse. You can also see that Goldly familes usually have godly offspring,. Youth do wonder at times but always fing their way back to the truth.</p>
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