Is it over for Hillary?

A quick glance at the Huffington Post headlines right now tells the same story I’ve been hearing all morning in the news and on the web. Last night could very well have marked the end of Hillary Clinton’s bid for the presidency.

  • OBAMA VS MCCAIN
  • …CLINTON OUT OF MATH, MONEY AND MOMENTUM…
  • THE MATH: Obama 184.5 Delegates From Nomination, Clinton 341… 217 Delegates, 270 Superdelegates Left…
  • THE MONEY: Clinton Lends Herself Another $6.4 Million… $11.4 Million In Total…
  • THE MOMENTUM: Senior Clinton Official: “It’s Going To Be Tough For Us… We Lost This Thing In February”… Hillary Cancels Morning Show Appearances… Clinton Advisers Expect Calls To Resign From Supporters…

The facts are tough to ignore: She would have to secure 70% of all remaining delegates (pledged and super) to gain the nomination, her campaign is broke and her supporters are manning the lifeboats. Now it seems it’s not a question of “if” but “when” her run will end.

What do you think? Will she bow out gracefully or will she continue to battle through the rest of the primaries?

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19 thoughts on “Is it over for Hillary?

  1. I think she’s done.

    Last night was the first primary that I actually felt like something was actually accomplished. Even though I hated having to stay up so late, I enjoyed seeing that difference in Indiana drop and drop and drop…

  2. Your posts makes it sound like you would like her to be done?

    I am pledging 10 bucks to her keep on fighting and dont let the man (black man in this case) hold ya down!

    Its like a train wreck that is just coming down the tracks and when she finally goes out after she sues the Democratic party over Florida and Michigan its going to be ohh so enjoyable.

  3. if she were committed to her party and their winning in november as opposed to herself, she’d have bowed out long ago. instead she’s done more to help mccain win then anyone else possibly could. it’s sickening…but not suprising. after all, i called her

  4. @Pdog: Of course I want her to be done! She should have bowed out two months ago.

    @Mudpuppy: When I got home last night Cheryl told me the last she saw it was a 10% Clinton lead in Indiana. When I went to bed it was a 4% lead. I figured it would bounce back up to 5% to 7%. I was dumbfounded to learn it was 2%.

  5. Oh, and had Obama actually pulled ahead and won Indiana, today’s headline was going to be:

    Hoosier Daddy?!?

    Which would have been both funny and relatively inappropriate. 😆

  6. I don’t think she will bow out gracefully nor do I think she cares what is best for her party.

    While I think is about time we had a female president I do not think she is that female.

  7. The media was VERY quick to call obama the nominee after North Carolina…but there is no way Hillary is giving up. This will go to the convention. I liked Pdogs opinion the Hillary would rather sue the DNC over Michigan and florida than lose gracefully.

    It is interesting that if the DNC used the winner take all system of counting delegates like the RNC does, Hillary would be ahead.
    http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2008/04/07/hillary/

  8. The media was “so quick” to call Obama the nominee because they can handle elementary math. She needs to secure 70% of all the remaining delegates that are up for grabs to win the nomination. And with every delegate he earns, or superdelegate who endorses him from here on out – that margin grows wider. It’s simply not going to happen.

    Plus, her campaign is broke.

    She is not taking this to the convention, and she’s not suing the DNC. I’ll put money on it. She’s going to keep running to try to get her campaign out of debt. She’ll tone down the venom to try temper the party’s divide and will end her campaign gracefully after all the primaries have been held. At which point Florida and Michigan will be meaningless – because Obama’s lead will remain too much to overcome (the margin grows wider with each round of primaries) and the superdelegate snowball effect will continue in his favor. Then the DNC will seat all the Florida and Michigan delegates at the convention so as not to alienate voters.

    In my opinion she’s doing the DNC a favor by keeping the Florida and Michigan voters engaged. Regardless of whether or not she wins the nomination (which she can’t) she’ll be seen as a friend to those voters, so when she throws her weight behind the nominee – or is on the ticket as the VP – those voters will not be disenfranchised and will gladly cast a vote for the Dem.

    While it’s true that Hillary would be ahead if the DNC and GOP followed the same system, you also have to take into account that she and Obama both would have run their campaigns in a completely different way if those were the ground rules. It’s not apples to apples by any means.

  9. The podcast thing is pretty cool. Obama has certainly blazed new trails for future political campaigns with his brilliant use of the web and social networking in this campaign.

    I’ve been a subscriber to this YouTube channel for some time now.

  10. does this whole “super delegate” thing remind anyone that we are NOT living in a true democracy? i hope so. between that and the electoral college, i’d hope that the reality of our system of government – a constitutional republic, not a democracy – would be made clear.

  11. does this whole “super delegate” thing remind anyone that we are NOT living in a true democracy?

    I don’t agree. Not about the primaries anyway.

    Nobody cared one bit about superdelegates until this primary election. For the past 25 years or so they’ve largely been a non-factor as the nominee is typically sifted out long before their votes are a factor.

    The part of me that doesn’t like open primaries would argue that primaries are a party’s way of selecting a candidate. (Let’s not get them confused with the general election.) A party takes a look at the available candidates, through their process selects one to endorse and then presents that candidate to the people to vote for against the candidates of other parties. And as such, a party can do whatever the heck they want with that process, in my opinion.

    The democrats could cast lots to pick a candidate for all I care. Don’t like it? Don’t vote for their guy. The fact that the public gets to cast their votes to select a candidate – in many cases for a party they don’t even belong to – is pretty darn democratic if you ask me.

    You could make the argument that the Republican’s “winner take all” primary system is undemocratic too. I mean, a dude takes a state by one vote and now half of the votes no longer matter because he gets all the delegates?

    But I don’t care how they do it either.

    I mean, how does the Green Party go about selecting their candidate? Is it any more democratic? What about the other 50+ parties out there? How do they decide who to endorse?

    There’s nothing stopping any other party out there from raising funds, gaining support, gaining influence and being a legit player on the scene. I’m all for more parties, the more the merrier! But our democratic system isn’t in their way nearly as much as their inability to organize, gain support and field a candidate worth considering.

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