Barack Obama at the 2008 DNC

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21 thoughts on “Barack Obama at the 2008 DNC

  1. Counted 32 “Thank You’s” before he started talking…that has to be a record…

    I was waiting for him to say “Shut the F’ up and let me speak!”

  2. First, let me say that last night was great. I’m happy and proud to have a black man as my president. The dude can orate. I hope these grand plans work out.

    Second, I had so much to say/ask last night that my head nearly exploded!!!

    1)If 95% of us are going to get a tax cut, I have to assume that the 5% to be taxed more heavily to fund the pipe-dreams will be the rich and/or corporations…particularly the devil that is big oil. Sounds like communism to me whereas I’d prefer church-led socialism.

    2)If big corporations that employ millions of middle Americans start losing their tax breaks and start seeing a drop in their profits, you’d have to be completely naive to think they’ll be okay with it. Their answer will be to cut health insurance, lower raises and bonuses, cut education support, cut 401K plans, and more rapidly raise prices. I work for one of these companies. Believe me, they have no problem laying off, cutting programs, and saying screw you to the little guy. I don’t see how this will help middle America IN THE LONG TERM (which is not how Democrats think).

    3)If you plan to eliminate oil as something that America needs in 10 years (which I’m okay with) you also cut oil as an employer that profits. See point above. The end result will be companies that sell solar or hydro power at ridiculous profits.

    4)We ARE a bunch of whiners. We’ve gotten to this point in this country that we think because someone else is rich, we deserve it, not them. And if they’ve got it, tell them to give it to me. People, this is capitalism. If you don’t like it and would rather have the government take control of profits and dispense them at will, then vote for it. I can’t.

    Anyway, like I said, I strongly disagree with the man but I look forward to his presidency which is inevitable.

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    All made with oil. It’s going to be a busy 10 years.

  4. i know he said middle eastern oil. you can read his gospel, i mean speech, anywhere. the enemy is the same, though…big oil. their profits, their pollution, their fault.

  5. after watching that speach, i was struck by how little he mentioned his actual accomplishments.

    it was a GREAT speach…but seriously, other than talk, what has the guy actually DONE?

    i’m not talking about background or school or perpetually running for office….what has the guy DONE? organize communities? vote “present?”

    if he gets elected, it will be because he offered promises in a way that moved folks to tears…not because he had a track record to back up those promises.

    as an outsider, i’m still amazed that hillary lost to him. she had all the nuts and bolts.

  6. wonderful orator. wonder why he left out the part about voting for re-authorization of the patriot act on march 2, 2006? doesn’t seem like “change” to me.

  7. and in regard to big oil…

    “exxon mobil reported a profit of $11.7 billion over the last three months, the largest quarterly profit ever by any u.s. corporation.”

    yeah.

  8. they’re allowed to make a profit!!! that’s the point of capitalism. it is ridiculous to me that we say “oh, you’re not allowed to make that much money offering a commodity that all of us refuse to limit our usage of.”

    exxon also gave roughly 200 million dollars to other organizations and employees, but that’s besides the point. we should force them to do it in a way that better helps me.

  9. i realize that they can make a profit…the point of me posting that (with “big oil” having been mentioned) was we’ve been paying ridiculous amounts – yes, europeans pay more, they also have amazing public transport that doesn’t exist in rural america. hell, i’m in an urban area, but the bus doesn’t go to where i work. and then winter comes. that’s the point. they’ve made the largest quarterly profit EVER by any u.s. corporation while people like me scrounge up change to get to my damn job.

    as far as capitalism, i disagree with any economic system that not only perpetuates human greed, but is based entirely on it. i realize taxes are as certain as death, and money makes the world go round – and i’m not advocating marxism, but i still think capitalism is an absolutely deplorable system.

  10. capitalism has made more poor people wealthy than any socialist system in history.
    it isn’t perfect…but it provides opportunity.

  11. hah tyring to get jess in trouble so mean.

    I had a long talk with 2 accountants after church yesterday about Comrad Obama’s (jk) economics. It was a lot of stuff I would plead some ignorance too/about but it seems like pretty poor planning.

  12. @ stem. you’re 100% right, it provides opportunity. my father was raised by two mill workers (i sound like john edwards, ha!) and b/c of basic, adam smith-ian style capitalism is able to own 2 restaurants and get by ok. but, being from small town central maine, his restaurant is patroned by lots of poor people, who are poor b/c the mill is closed, everything’s closed (good things he has low prices). the recession was certainly MUCH more noticable when i went home then it is here in providence. point is, rural americai is hurt much more than the rest, and it’s the type of jobs that kept the towns running that have gone to 3rd world countries by corporations who use slave labor. there’s a difference between the economics adam smith talked about and the system we have now, which i believe is completely off the rails capitalism that is ruining the lives of millions of americans. and most of them are not lazy, or on drugs, or “i want the govt to pay for my life” people. they just don’t have any opportunities. my father himself – a staunch small govt conservative – says he’s lucky, it’s not all about him working hard. i’m totally rambling, but i guess the point i’d like to make is that a “conscious capitalism” is what would be much more preferable. as far as socialism, well, the rest of the 1st world is not socialist, but they have embraced social democracy, a kind of “socialism light”, and their standards of living are leaps & bounds above ours. there’s good in our system, if there wasn’t i wouldn’t be able to write this right now – but it can and needs to get better. and more corporate control and conglomerates running amuck isn’t going to do anything but make our lives worse. corporate capitalism is flat-out evil, imho.

  13. I’ve traveled through Europe, Former Soviet Union, and Central Asia…I’ve seen enough corruption stemming from other forms of government to know capitalism is not to blame for the globe’s social injustices. With so much wealth to be had in this little world, someone is bound to control it…It might happen to be Idi Amin, a “special interest group”, or Walmart. Now I realize how fun it is to sit around sipping our Starbucks coffee, all the while dissing large corporations, but there are two truths here…”The love of money (greed) is the root of all evil” but there is nothing evil about money itself. If you have a little cash you can accomplish alot more than having a cynical attitude. If we’re serious about ending poverty then maybe we should accept some responsibility and get busy finding ways to create more wealth instead of waiting and whining, hoping someone else in government will let us off the hook by taking things from people who have things and give them to people who have less!

  14. thanks for the link shane.

    now that i see how he does things, i’m more certain than ever i’m not voting for the guy. 🙂

    here’s the thing….let’s be “thinking people” about this (since that link implies only the educated are voting for obama)

    if these accomplishments were as grand as they’re made out to be, he’d be TRUMPETING them from the rooftops to silence his critics.
    factually, he has sponsered very few bills because he hasn’t had TIME to. which is to expected…i mean, he’s a freshman in the senate (and 1/3 of that has been on the campaign trail)
    just one more reason that i wont be voting for him.

  15. You weren’t ever going to vote for him anyway. 😆

    For those who are curious, the U.S. Senate bills that he did at least co-sponsor (not listed in the previous links of IL state senate bills) include:

    S.230 (Co-sponsor)

    Honest Leadership and Open Government Act (Co-sponsor)

    The Congressional Ethics Enforcement Commission Act (Sponsor)

    The Transparency and Integrity in Earmarks Act (Sponsor)

    The Curtailing Lobbyist Effectiveness through Advance Notification, Updates, and Posting Act (The CLEAN UP Act) (Sponsor)

    All consistent with his “change” message regarding ethics reform.

    Since starting in the U.S. Senate, Obama has written 890 bills and co-sponsored another 1096. Or in Stem’s world, “very few.”

    Yep, he’s young. Yep, he’s a junior Senator. Yep, he hasn’t had a ton of time in the Senate. But he’s been active, aggressive and successful in that short time. Just as he was in the IL state senate. Which gives me no reason to expect otherwise from a Presidential term from him.

    His platform, message, plan and record have been communicated extensively (most recent). I would suspect that, in alot of cases, those who say that they still don’t know anything about him, or what he’s accomplished, or what specifically he wants to do to bring about “change” simply haven’t been paying much attention. Or made their minds up never to seriously consider him the first time they saw (D-IL) next to his name. (Which is fine. No R’s have a prayer of being checked on the National side of my ballot this time around either.)

  16. shane,

    can you define for us what “written” and “co-sponsored” means?

    because if you want me to believe that in 3.5 years obama has been up late churning out bill after bill, you’re going to have to re-define my understanding of space, time and reality.
    890 bills written in 40 months?
    thats 22.25 bills per month.

    of course, somewhere in between writing bills, obama has had enough time to co-sponser another 1096 bills.
    thats 27.4 per month.

    bringing his grand total to 49.65 bills he’s been involved in per month.
    thats 1.6 bills per day, including weekends, holidays and breaks.

    now, 18 of those 40 months have been on the campaign trail.
    as i’ve mentioned, they take huge breaks, long weekends and holidays.
    and unique to obama has been his unbelievable media appeal…which had him on every chance they could since 2004.

    again, if he really did 1.6 bills per day over the last 3.5 years, we would hear that trumpeted from the rooftops. we don’t hear it from his campaign because they know that won’t sell. it’s unrealistic.

  17. From Government 101: How a Bill Becomes a Law

    Sponsor – The original member who introduces a bill.

    Co-Sponsor – A member or members that add his or her name formally in support of another members bill. In the House a member can become a co-sponsor of a bill at any point up to the time the last authorized committee considers it. In the Senate a member can become a co-sponsor of a bill anytime before the vote takes place on the bill. However, a co-sponsor is not required and therefore, not every bill has a co-sponsor or co-sponsors.

    Look, what do you want from me? I’m just sharing the information that is readily available about the number of bills he’s written, sponsored, co-sponsored, etc. Those numbers can also be found on Obama’s website. You said “very few.” That’s not even close to accurate. He authored 142 bills in his first year as a U.S. Senator alone, and co-sponsored another 427.

    Logic would dictate that Obama, like all other Senators, Congressmen and anyone else for that matter who has a staff and is at the top of the food chain, has a legion of staffers working with him on those bills. Do I think he himself is up all hours of the night banging out drafts of legislation on MS Word? Of course not. But he’s working to get his name on them, present them, get others on board as co-sponsors, etc. That’s pretty much how the whole being a Senator thing works. Also how John McCain spends his days as well.

    Despite the right’s attempts to paint him as a fly-by-night do nothing dog and pony show, the reality is that he’s been extremely aggressive and active in the Senate and has had his name on some significant legislation – both in terms of quantity and quality. He’d do more with more Senate terms, but I understand his decision to strike while the iron is hot and run for President.

    Here’s a list of those that have seen action in the last year and a half alone if you’d care to comb through it. While we’re at it, here’s John McCain’s list.

    You’re not satisfied with what he’s done, and you’re never going to be. And that’s fine. Lots of people aren’t. That’s why we get to vote.

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