NOOMA 022 – Tomato

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The latest installment of Rob Bell’s NOOMA series is available to view in its entirety “exclusively” at Neue Ministry. But you better act fast, it’s only available until Thursday.

I found the video player at Neue to be a bit choppy, so thankfully the video is also playing “exclusively” on Facebook. If you’re a member, I recommend viewing that stream instead.

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12 thoughts on “NOOMA 022 – Tomato

  1. Here’s the description:

    We all get consumed with ourselves; sometimes we’re not even aware of it. We learn from a young age that life is about winning and impressing. We pick up that our worth and value come from how good, how smart, and how skilled we are. So, we twist things in our favor, making us look like we have it all together.

    Every day we have the choice to prop up these false ideas about ourselves or to let go of them. Jesus invites these parts of us to die, the parts of us that tell us our worth comes from the things we say and do. Maybe it’s only when we let these things die, that we truly begin to live.

    Anyone care to have a good old fashioned small group discussion?

  2. You know the weirdest thing about this Nooma is that Sunday morning I attended a Church of Christ with some extended family and the minister preached that exact sermon. It was eerie to watch that yesterday.

    And I second that suggestion to watch it on Facebook.

  3. So let’s dig in shall we?

    Rob hit it on the head for me when talking about “that part of us that always has to be right.”

    Man is that a struggle for me! As is clearly displayed on an ongoing basis here. πŸ˜†

    And I’ve definitely seen its affects on relationships. Especially with others at times who are equally committed to their opinions as I am.

    I thought it was interesting how he talked about the “ego” not being the “real you.” But rather the wall we build around ourselves for protection.

    I tend to be pretty committed to my ego.

  4. Hmmm…by any chance are we related? πŸ™‚

    There are many Bertou traits that I am quite proud of…but our egotistic, stubborn nature is not one of them! Grandpa was always right (cause Lord knows you wouldn’t argue with him even if he wasn’t), my Dad thinks he’s always right (sound familiar?), and as for me…well, I AM always right! πŸ™‚ (kidding, of course).

  5. So where does our ability to drink just about anyone under the table rank? πŸ˜†

    I think everyone has – to some degree – an unhealthy attachment to their ego. I think one of my biggest problems is when I allow my ego to be aggressive. Maybe it’s my “Napolean Complex,” but I tend to have a pretty aggressive personality. And my ego is typically the driving force behind that. Alot of the time it comes of as acidic and angry. And alot of that is veiled by humor.

    But I’ve seen my inner jerk tear people down from time to time. And I can’t say I’m too proud of that.

  6. I have trouble because I am used to doing very well at things and being right about things at work etc that I think all that transfers to all facets of my life and I am an unbearable ass to my wife and family sometimes.
    That and its a very high horse I seem to think I sit on most the time.

    Then again I disagree that its not ok to be taught winning is important. I think its more important that even if you value winning and impressing as they say at a high lvl its still all about what you do after you win that defines you. I never got nor will my child ever get a participation ribbon because mediocrity is not something to be celebrated. Effort is but there is winning and losing in my opinion and that distinction shouldn’t be foremost in peoples minds but it is in mine.

  7. “So where does our ability to drink just about anyone under the table rank?” Not sure where that ranks, but I’m pretty sure that trait comes directly from Aunt Renee! πŸ™‚

  8. @ Pdog; We’re dealing with some of that with our oldest. He’s a pretty good kid, and he’s smart as heck and pretty athletic. So things come easy to him and he’s always being praised by others.

    Consequently, he’s developed a bit of an obsession with being the best at everything. And when he isn’t, his whole world tends to melt down. But when he is, he sure can’t keep his ego at bay. We have to talk lots and lots about how being good at something also means you need to be humble.

    It doesn’t totally relate, but it’s interesting to see it start to brew at an early age. I’m just hoping I can steer him along the right way so he doesn’t grow up to be an unbearable ass like you and I.

  9. shane i have been reading this book called the new birth order book. it’s really interesting. and sheds a lot of light on stuff like that. the stuff you are saying about josiah, this guy would say, is typical firstborn behavior (like myself) perfectionist tendencies, etc. it’s interesting cause he talks about not just how to deal with your personality traits that come from birth order, but how to parent well to each child, etc.
    our firstborn is the same way. she hesitates to do something if she doesn’t think she can do it perfect and kind of looses it if things don’t go the way she thinks they should, etc.

  10. Shane, i just led a small group meeting last night about the character trait of gentleness. What is interesting is that gentleness, though similar to self control and not being angry, is different in that it has to do with keeping quiet at times, learning how to defend yourself (see Stephen the martyr) while not being defensive (which you indicate you struggle with). It’s a good study that was very informative to me.
    What it comes down to, and I assume this video says, is that we can be gentle, meek, humble, quiet, mocked like Jesus and for Jesus, because we know our place in him. We are chosen sons and daughters that need not defend ourselves because he speaks for us.
    Anyway, I’ll watch the video later.
    Peace.

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